i get home don't even get out of the parking lot, she pulls up. They can't take my free will. I'll give you potential issues with being counted. The less you say to them the faster they stop bothering you. I've read the Constitution now and I fail to find any foundation for anyone asking questions of this nature. It's supposed to be confidential. Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 190. We have 273 people living in this house with no plumbing, I go to work at 2 a.m. and get home at 2:30. Under the rule of apportionment, Virginia would have been responsible for 30 percent of the tax. papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated. I demanded who he was for the third time and he said us census. He asked if I would consent to a phone survey and I could decline from answering any questions I thought were too personal or intrusive. We will not be participating. I told them I was not responding, and as I shut the door and walked away she stood on the porch and rang the bell, and since then it's all gone down hill. I bet some of the people who are so desperate for food and necessities in other countries would love to change places with you and they would probably be thrilled to answer a few questions. About a month ago (August 2010) I received my first ACS phone inquiry. welfare etc. If they refuse, call 911 and report a hostile trespasser. (This is about 10:02 a.m. which is very early in my world since I work from noon till 9 p.m. Don't be rude to the people who are sent out to your house because you think you're too "special" to answer your census. This is a violation of our privacy and a malevolent use of government power. Where do we call to report this abuse? The Census Bureau's annual American Community Survey found 295,000 households in the Boise region as of December 2021. What you guys who love to quote the constitution fail to take into account are all of the amendments the government has quietly put in since it was first written. I now have multiple visits to my home every day, followed up by threatening calls with an hour of each. There's comfort in knowing I'm not alone! I filled in only the number of adults and children and wrote a note on the form that this was the only information I would provide. He was shocked and said it was required by law. You can search the internet and find many references to threats of a fine, but you won't find anyone who has ever been fined. All I can think of is that every time one of us gives in and allows this servant to go unchallenged, then they get bolder, prouder, and we get used to it and then we are eventually abused by them. No thanks, poster 188. The Census Bureau provides guidelines that prevent harassment or late night calls, although some ACS recipients have complained of getting several calls a day. but who gets the census??? The first two (18 U.S. Code 3571 and 18 U.S. Code 3559) simply deal with classifications of federal offenses and associated fines, but contain no reference to the census or American Community Survey. Any opt-out mechanism you offer must be able to process opt-out requests for at least 30 days after you send your message. So I received two ACS forms in the mail and they are not going to be filled out. i wish i still had my camcorder so i could do like the person said. Their job is to get the form completed, that is all. Go Obama Care. Your participation is critical. Since then, they have called three or four times and stopped by multiple times. That sort of thing. But remember some of these folks have children to feed, too. With Halloween right around the corner, how about scare the crap out of them. If my birth date is going to help somebody get elected or the state (district) gain an extra seat in the house, then get the expecting mothers' due dates for the year while at it. all the government tries to say if they want you to do something is say "its the law" thinking people will run and do what they say. Why does the Census Bureau conduct all these surveys? Whom do I contact if I have additional questions, recommendations, or issues? I told her again that I already gave the required info by law and there is no reason to give all that other information. How much is the regular monthly mortgage payment on this property? Thesis: It is best to be professional and courteous when speaking in person and on the phone to the ACS representatives. "; "What is your favorite color on Thursday afternoons between 4:30 and 5:00 p.m.? The rule embodies two principles - notice and opt out. According to the Census Bureau, it randomly selects 3.5 million households each year as targets of the ACS. Commission, 32 Fed. That alone, in the wrong hands; is reason NOT to respond to such a blatant abuse of power. With a president and congress that constantly lie about everything, how do they expect me to believe that the information on the Census form is truly confidential? They think that if they exert a little authority, show you a badge, write a stern letter, that you will be too afraid to tell them that they have no right to subject you to this. At the moment, I am pretty furious with the current political band of thieves and third world dictators "wannabes" in power. Or maybe they're going to start sending happy birthday cards to everybody soon. I just moved to a suburb outside of Detroit after years of living there, and its strange but I also got 'grilled' the last time it came around. What can I expect? For the information of the people here, Congressman Poe (Texas) and Bachmann (Minnesota)have introduced legislation to eliminate the ACS intrusive questions. There should be a law against this. Give me one reason I should trust my government. I upgraded my cell phone to one that I can take video with and that has a large memory. Although they have a mandate and articles and codes under the US code, this is all for the census not the ACS. The only thing is, I lied my butt off! I am going to avoid all traps and when it is time to have them finally come over I am going to do an international webcast and sing answers and slowly say, ohhhhh I don't know.let me think and sit there for 15 minutes for each question.everyone will know where I don't work, how much money I don't make and that I don't have plumbing and that I fart a lot That's the game the Nazi's started with in the 30's as did Stalin, with the knocks on the door and the spying on each other. A month later I received the ACS questionnaire, and coincidentally(? I first starting receiving these things by mail like 4 years ago. You would have done well in the SS. No reason to be rude to someone doing their job. When they ask for race, that's what gets me. So far no challenges to our door visitors. And nowhere in the Library of Congress has any bill ever given them the right to fine you. I answered the questions on the Census that are Constitutional, and that is it. We are given dominion (care) over so much and neglect it, destroy it, and enslave it. Thank goodness for this web site. I worked as an enumerator for the 2000 Census. She stated that they lost it. I sent in the Census form (and that's all I'm required to provide). I asked her if she had related my story to the supervisor. This warning is clearly stated on the ACS envelope, and the form itself threatens a fine for people who refuse or willfully neglect to complete the survey. I got no answer. we have every right to keep our privacy!!!! I don't owe the government anything for going to college. I'm so glad I'm not alone. He asked me about a census employee who visited my home the prior week. I say "sorry sir no one here is available and you need to leave." And you all sound sober and mature, not the lunatic fringe at all. Learn more about about the opt-out and how to properly . I think that I will put this in the woodstove-just don't tell the EPA or they will be here to take away my woodstove. Where is the America I grew up in? I have no idea about the ACS (or any of their personal questions). While talking to the ACS lady on the phone I found out they didn't have a complete address and had sent me a form. It then adds insult and temerity by threatening me for noncompliance? On 22 September 2006, the American Broadcast Company (ABC) reported that, since 2003, the Census Bureau lost or reported stolen over 200 laptops and numerous handheld and portable data devices used by survey collectors. It's unbelievable that they have the right to do this, on principle alone, I will not. It's aimed at collecting data that influence how. There are three general approaches to abortion care training: "opt out," in which training is routinely integrated into residency training but residents with religious or moral objections can opt out of participation; "opt in," in which training is available but not routinely scheduled; and programs in which no training is provided. Recipients of the American Community Survey are told several times that the information given is necessary for the operation of our government, is very secure and is kept private. I'm sick of this. From reading here, it looks like disclosing phone numbers is just an additional way of eventually breaking you down. She returned the following day. We have received phone calls. That includes visitors then which would not be falsifying info. anon77096: Why would anybody want federal funding for anything? He didn't know what to think about that (needed to check the law), and took no action. I've been through one round of the no-response ordeal back in '08 and everything turned out just fine. When we do the ACS on the phone, we do not ask for your SS #, we do not ask how many times you go to the bathroom. I received the ACS invasion of privacy letter on my door yesterday. I have called the local census office for our area and filed a complaint. This survey is intrusive and i will not answer it! Seemed like they try to collect more info than they need but will give in if you call them on their crime. There is no legal obligation for you to answer their questions. Emails from the Census Bureau will have instructions or information to complete a survey online, by phone with a Census Bureau representative, or by paper. The questions in this survey were originally asked in the census long form sent to 1 out of every 6 households during the decennial census. After reading many of the earlier posts, I feel I am doing the right thing by not returning the survey. The last thing the execs at the Census Bureau want to see is a video of one of their "enumerators" on YouTube, the Six O'clock News, or in Congress or a courtroom harassing and threatening a citizen/voter with a big fine or jail time if that person refuses to give out the personal details of his life to a perfect stranger. May the Lord grant my fellow citizens victory in their battles with this unconstitutional invasion of privacy, too. I want to thank you for this site and for all of the posters sharing their experiences and offering insight and information. Most U.S. representatives have local offices. You can opt-out at any time. What is this survey? Opt Out Meaning Example If you still haven't submitted the survey, you may get a call. She was a little surprised how I knew things about her. If they aren't getting anything from my house and they've canvassed my six neighbors twice (actually talking to four of them). I, too, have been harassed by the Census Bureau. When she called tonight at my employer, I told her I was moving. No one from the Census has ever asked for your social security number - perhaps someone *posing* as a Census Field Rep. did, but not an employee of the Census. Years ago someone told me that the information can be used in a book (that may or may not be in your library) that is published showing where you work, how long you lived at your residence, etc. All this and I live on an Army installation! I propose: 1) Grabbing your video recorder and recording the entire exchange. Stonewall them out. I wonder how many of those opposing census questions will annually volunteer much more private information and their personal wealth to a real evil unconstitutional organization - the IRS. Quite honestly, you are not that important. How to confirm the person visiting your address is a legitimate Census Bureau employee or whether the contact you received was from the Census Bureau. Publication of the new marital data is anticipated in late 2009. its no joke. do we have a hot water heater? Verify a Census Bureau Survey, Mailing, or Contact. In summary: All banks must develop initial and annual privacy notices. a race is a competition with winners and losers being monitored by individuals who are not in the running. And, if the above comments stated that he can find all the info on the internet, then by all means find it, and leave me alone. They have also threatened to fine or jail me. For years I've been very concerned about the direction that our country has been taking. Respondents like to know their voice is being heard, so it's important to follow up with them. They DO go away. Why doesn't the gov just sell us some cyanide instead of slowly picking away at our bones? Do they ever stop with this? Share sensitive information only on official, secure websites. Ultimately, you might just need to either answer the census to get them to stop coming or, as an alternative, make up answers to protect your privacy. Well, our credit cards, social security numbers, and who knows what else, are now being used by illegal aliens and fraudulent companies. The only thing you are required to do is answer the basic census questions name, age, address, race, marital status, citizenship, and the same basic info on everyone who all lives in the house with you. I said, what makes you think I'm going to turn over my personal information to a total stranger knocking on my door. Lumoa. Our local lady of concern (Virginia) wasn't the only person who was suspicious of this. And I did so right away. I live in the ghetto already. I just did not answer the door (a habit with any unscheduled visitor so not hard for me). Mailed it in. Enumeration. Section (d) authorizes every 10 years starting 1985. It regularly gathers information previously contained only in the long form of the decennial census, including ancestry, citizenship, educational attainment, income, language proficiency, migration, disability, employment, and housing . The last person who called our home sounded like he was contracted through India? I emailed my Congressman (John Larson, CT) twice, over a month ago, but he (and/or his staff) has failed to reply by e-mail or phone. That's the truth. Help for Survey Participants. If the IRS has no info on you, you're illegal anyway. To support any of this is not like killing, it is killing your neighbor, your dog, your wife, your kids and your kids' kids - maybe slowly and with pretty lights and shiny trinkets, but it is. No need to respond to the intrusive survey. Different people call at all hours and they block the name and number. this is the letter I sent the census bureau. I am not saying that the US government would or could ever go to this extreme but, for the purposes of garnering ever more political power and authority over the citizenry, I have no illusions about how far this government will go. They will report any threats or harassment (allegedly), so be careful how you respond to them. Anyway he proceed to stretch as much as he could so he could look into my living room. What things do we never ask for? I think when they show up at my door, I will tell them I am house sitting for the owners who are out of town for the next six months. so i would be prepared. Point and go toward your kind of happy. Please show me where the US Census Bureau was given the right to fine you or even where they are mentioned in these laws? "The American Community Survey (ACS) is an ongoing survey that provides vital information on a yearly basis about our nation and its people. If there are any lawyers out there, we would like you thoughts -- non-attribution of course. I hollered at the door that "I'm a crippled senior and DO NOT open my door unless its my kids". she yelled through the door announcing her name & bla bla "census, have some questions for you"..I'll just leave my card & you can call me next week!". Are You in a Survey? We filled in very basic info and did put in the drive times. and see what they make of that. I have already received two calls. Then you want to threaten with fines? That's when I lost my patience and said "Look pal, you're here to count people right. Mind you, no return by date was given. They are not better people, more deserving, more intelligent, more experienced they didn't know "how" things were going to work out they just knew they would. We did not return the census, and received continuous letters and threats. What the hell are you mad about? Turns out, the worker knew where my husband works and called him there shortly after. I said I did not need any help. I found out on a different blog that the OMB# on the front of my ACS is expired. Are you willing to roll the dice that this information will remain protected? The biggest, the American Community Survey (ACS), is sent annually to more than 3.5 million randomly selected homes to gather population, economic, housing and other data that helps determine how hundreds of billions of dollars in state and federal money is distributed. What do you really think they use the information for? Its purpose is to keep people informed of what is going on in their local, state, or federal governments. Now there was the random insanely long, for one out of four, which I think is totally unfair. He was very surprised. This questionnaire id just too personal and invasive of ones rights as a citizen in any country, let alone (supposedly) "The Land of the Free and The Brave" did Cheney, Bush, McCain, Obama fill one out? State that you have not made up your mind yet and will get back with them (think "slow roll"). Thirty-six states and the District of Columbia allow parents to opt-out on behalf of their children. I not only told them that I sent it in, but added that if I received another call, I would report it as harassment, and hung up immediately. Got a phone call wanting the birth dates. Please confirm. The American Community Survey is part of the decennial census, and replaces the census "long form" that previously was sent to a percentage of households once every 10 years. Hurrah for Senator Michelle Bachmann (MN) who has said, I understand, that she will not fill out this piece of trash. She left me with a notice of visit with her name and I suppose her personal phone number. Millions of dollars wasted! It's just like a bunch of whiners. (I was astonished to note that apparently only about 12,000 households have resisted so far.) The US government already has all the information they need on people who file their annual income tax. It is just easier for them to get it this way. This site provides answers about our surveys and who to contact for more information. Fine, sue me, I dare you, but stop holding me hostage in my home. The Supreme Court in June rejected an attempt by the Trump administration to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, a much more sweeping and comprehensive count of the American population. I ignored the phone when it rang. Anyone out there actually worked for this part of the Census with accurate info? Access demographic, economic and population data from the U.S. Census Bureau. I told the second person who called me that I had already refused to cooperate with the first person who called. If there was no response by the time we finished our list, we were to call again. But the Supreme Court is not supreme over the other branches of government; it is supreme only over lower federal courts. They do NOT enforce noncompliance, because they know this survey is UNAmerican and UNConstitutional and would NOT stand up in a court of law against The People. And as to the types of questions that can be asked, the only limit is that they can't be of a religious nature. I refused entry into my home. That hesitancy can be surprisingly stubborn to overcome. Do some research for "0810" without the quotes and you'll find that OMM no. Spending good taxpayer dollars on another social joke. Further, congressional rules on enforcement were controlled by the Republican Congressional Committee overseeing Census Bureau Operations, when the Republicans controlled congress. So he then left. :0 We shall not be intimidated! Thomas Jefferson. The second time I got a call, I followed the recommendation of a fellow patriot. finally he told her he would call the cops if she didn't leave. I can go on the internet and find more about you then anything the census is looking for. I thought the census only took place every 10 years. As long as there are enough people who didn't fill out the census? Think anyone is going to get approval to send out US Marshals to issue tickets? Please give that a shot, I'll find me a constitutional lawyer and challenge the constitutionality of this law, any survey or law attached and the constitutionality of this survey as well as the census survey. He harassed her a little and had fun with it and she was on her way. Direct taxes are inherently unfair because one state, with ten percent of the population, might be one of the richest states while another state, with the same percentage of the population, might be one of the poorest. What a bunch of paranoid people you are. We have been like a frog cooked in our own water slowly. The enumeration is *solely for the purposes of elected representative apportionment* I told her the ACS is a violation of the Constitution and I did not believe it would be used to "provide" me schools or hospitals or fire stations, but rather to spy on me. A locked padlock
The census has gone outside the Constitutional limits for years with what they ask on the actual survey and now this? Twice, a person showed up at our door. I have written both my senators, Warner and Webb of Virginia, and stated my refusal to comply with the ACS. What they dont tell you is that the information is available to a long list of private corporation, research agencies and think tanks, who use the information to justify and pursue their own agendas. Seriously, do I really have to answer and return the american community survey? They bring in all additional people running up monies needed for schools, social programs. Anyone who took the time to actually read the ACS and understand how sensitive this information is and how unsecured it actually is would join in the outrage and demand that it be given its proper burial in the grave of horrible bureaucratic policy. Oh, the reason he came back?
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